We agnostics big book study books

Episodes experience the big book aa big book study. I have experienced this process with almost 300 alcoholics and addicts over the past 4 years. What about those sanctimonious church goers who judge me for. The big book provides background on the history of. The big book of quotations for atheists, agnostics, and. It is dedicated to those who want recovery from alcoholism, but have difficulty with the word god.

How could there possibly be a god when there are so many starving people and wars where everybody says god is on their side. Oct 12, 2017 one of many good places to begin is in alcoholics anonymous aka the big book, specifically chapter 4, we agnostics. Mike presents a big book study podcast and thoughts on recovery. The big book of lists for atheists, agnostics, and secular. Find the ones you want and click listen here to hear them on your computer. This is the audio version of the fourth edition of the big book, the basic text for alcoholics anonymous. We have a new site come and check us out thursday night big book study. Chapter 4 of the big book, we agnostics, in which bill w argues that recovery requires belief in god, is an insulting mishmash. As of december 2009, 30,664,881 copies of the big book have been sold or otherwise distributed source aa gso ny. It sounds like they are trying to convert me to something.

Also, while the big book is clear that the twelve steps are a means of making contact with god, many other guides see the steps as a program of. Waking upthe advantage of studying secular spirituality in some detail is that. We agnostics i n the precedingchapters you have learned something of alcoholism. Speakers joe and charlie we agnostics the big book comes alive download the transcript to the entire book study here aa big book ch5 how it works 4th edition aa big book ch3 more about alcoholism 4th edition jay s. Words contained within the first 164 pages of the big book. This is the second edition of the book alcoholics anonymous, which made its first appearance in april 1939. The big book is one of the bestselling books of all time, with over 30 million copies in print. And once again, i was amazed how easy it is for people to read and discuss scripture, even when they may not know anything about it, or even believe its true. Big book, discussion, literature, newcomer, open, secular, speaker. During any such meeting to study the aa big book, you would expect to encounter a wide variety of viewpoints on the portions under consideration.

We, of alcoholics anonymous, are more than one hundred men and woman who have re. In the preceding chapters you have learned something of alcoholism. Then why does the chaptor we agnostics insinuate were all agnostic till we find out who god is in our lives and we have to have a spiritual awakening. The big book of lists for atheists, agnostics, and secular humanists kindle edition by probulos, i. The 164 and more book, ebook, and web site are all concordances which display passages from the big book alcoholics anonymous, the twelve steps and twelve traditions, and the a. The big book has been honored as one of the most important american books by time magazine and the library of congress. We study the first 103 pages of the big book and when we come to the step instructions we take them together. We agnostics step 2 in the big book come to believe pages 4547. This is a study guide to the book alcoholics anonymous.

And one should read page 191 of the big book for bill wilsons own statement. The whytehouse is, i hope, a way to find that special phrase or saying etc. Many times we talk to a new man and watch his hope rise as we discuss his alcoholic problems and explain our fellowship. Aug, 2017 then why does the chaptor we agnostics insinuate were all agnostic till we find out who god is in our lives and we have to have a spiritual awakening. Many aa agnostics have found these books to be useful and enlightening. The idea of complete deflation and the teachings of the oxford group were offered as a solution to fred the accountant. They are not aa approved, but are aa permitted to use and adapt the aa 12 step program. Already, continues the early text, twos and threes and fives of us have sprung up in other communities. It is my hope that you will find this site useful to you and our friends of bill w.

Besides a seeming inability to accept much on faith, we often found. What if the fourth chapter of the big book,we agnostics had actually been written by atheists and agnostics. That is what the authors of the big book and millions before you did. To one who feels he is an atheist or agnostic such an experience. The book describes a growing secular movement within aa and how in the coming years this will help the fellowship of alcoholics. Find the latest 30 episodes below grouped by the day of the week they were recorded. This big book provides you with over 150 lists for atheists, agnostics, and secular humanists. The 25 millionth copy of the big book was published in 2005, so currently over a 1 million copies of the book, alcoholics anonymous, are sold each year.

Pages 44 through 57 chapter 4, we agnostics, is truly a remarkable piece of writing. I have one of these and it is one of my favorite items, a really excellent and useful for book study meetings or as a gift to a newcomer who is going to be heading to one. We have conducted historical investigations of spiritual, religious, and secular. I thought it had to be done precisely as laid out in the big book, and although bill w. The eaa group rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path.

The final point is that belief in god, acceptance of christ, and study. I have had many spiritual experiences as a result of this approach as have many of the newcomers i have worked with. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading the big book of quotations for atheists, agnostics, and secular humanists. I guess i was a bit of a fundamentalist at the time and feared that it wouldnt work if i didnt follow directions exactly. Chapter 4 we agnostics page 40 for either case, atheist or agnostic, we are going to have to find some way to have this spiritual experience, and to use this power greater than human power. Big book workbook is for those who are willing to grow along spiritual lines 60. Sixteen years have elapsed between our first printing of this book and the presentation of 1955 of our second edition. Read a history of agnostics in aa online by roger c books free.

This is because we agnostics includes terms such as creative intelligence, which would appear not to gel with the notion that we are allowed to accept the greater scientific universe as the higher power of our choosing. Sep 07, 2017 quad a alcoholics anonymous for atheists and agnostics was launched in 1975 in chicago. We agnostics assignment we have covered the first and second components of the disease of alcoholism. We believe we need the big book to be as accessible as possible to the next suffering alcoholic who looks to us for help and to the next. Reading guide for we agnostics amethyst recovery center. In doing so, the big book also presents a method by which readers can investigate theological questions for themselves. The big book would advise you, however, not to be too perturbed by these references.

Aa speaker turn our will and our lives over to the care of god new 20 duration. For many of us that seems to be an impossible task. It is named, of course, after a chapter in alcoholics anonymous often called the big book. Our goal is to study the steps as a friendly, focused group, and work them as the authors of the big book described. A perspective on we agnostics chapter 4 of the big book. In that setting, consider that, over in the corner, sits an old timer who has been around aa for over half a century. The goal is to have very concise lists with about 10 key items concerning science, religion, faith, evolution, and nonbelief.

Can be used by for groups, for sponsors and as a stand alone. Sorting and rendering passages in the proprietary format of the 164 and more concordance does not in any way imply affiliation with or endorsement by either alcoholics. We agnostics chapter of the big book religious forums. The individual sections of this study guide material reflect ideas, emotions and attitudes you might hear from the. The big book fundamentalists draw their inspiration and practice from their. In it we identify people and places, highlight issues, trace allusions, and put passages in their historical context. Thus it ranks high on the list of bestselling books ever. Chapter 4, we agnostics, is truly a remarkable piece of writing. Taken from the book alcoholics anonymous frequently called the big book.

It is the basic text of the fellowship of alcoholics anonymous, and has helped large numbers of alcoholic men and women, young and old, recover as of december 2009, 30,664,881 copies of the big book have been sold or otherwise distributed source aa gso ny. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading the big book of lists for atheists, agnostics. The big book provides background on the history of aa, including the founders, bill w. Joe and charlie we agnostics the big book comes alive.

We wish to make the 12 steps of alcoholics anonymous part of our lives by collaborating with a power greater than ourselves an inner knowing, our own. By the very act of critiquing chapter 4, we agnostics, i admittedly commit aa heresy. According to the big book, when we speak of god, what do we mean. M download it once and read it on your kindle device, pc, phones or tablets. In its chapter, we agnostics, the big book outlines its attitude toward spiritual and religious matters. I guess i was a bit of a fundamentalist at the time and feared that it wouldnt. The big book of quotations for atheists, agnostics, and secular humanists kindle edition by probulos, i. This book has more lists and some of them have been expanded to include as many as 100 items. The doctors opinion, bills story, how it works, there is a solution, more about alcoholism, we agnostics, into action, working with others and a vision for you. The first 164 pages of the big book with lined blank pages opposite each page of text for note taking. Alcoholism12 step support a perspective on we agnostics chapter 4 of the big book im not going for this god stuff. Its not a magical book that requires arcane knowledge to decipher and understand.

We wish to make the 12 steps of alcoholics anonymous part of our. Joe and charlie we agnostics the big book comes alive duration. To personalize the step for your study and action in the here and now, however, you may wish to rephrase it as. Aug 24, 2009 we have a new site come and check us out thursday night big book study. That means we have written a book which we believe to be spiritual as well as moral. This is the heart of the big book, the chapter that introduces the twelve steps of alcoholics anonymous, and is so revered that it is read to open. We agnostics in the preceding chapters you have learned something of alcoholism. Stepbystep guide for sponsors a companion to aas big book. Although these books are not written specifically for the agnostic, they use nonjudgemental direct language and are higherpower neutral. We hope we have made clear the distinction between the alcoholic and the nonalcoholic. Four short years before writing this chapter, the principal author, bill w. I have provided a link in a couple of places on this page for your convenience, so you can get to the search page. I mean i understood it intellectually, but what i wasnt getting is it god means anything that is outside the self that has the power to healhelpetc.

And it means, of course, that we are going to talk about god. Quad a alcoholics anonymous for atheists and agnostics was launched in 1975 in chicago. If, when you honestly want to, you find you cannot quit entirely, or if when drinking, you have little control over the amount you take, you are probably alcoholic. One of many good places to begin is in alcoholics anonymous aka the big book, specifically chapter 4, we agnostics. I taught ordinands women and men studying to be church ministers. The individual sections of this study guide material reflect ideas, emotions and attitudes you might hear from the mouth of that old timer over in the corner. May 21, 2008 in its chapter, we agnostics, the big book outlines its attitude toward spiritual and religious matters.